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Sad movies are annoying and retarded. Sadness is a very easy emotion to induce, and most idiots confuse "profuse amounts of any emotion" with terms like "moving", "deep", "profound" and other such words.

The essence of my message today is as follows:
"If a writer is unable to make a story that is good, it is easy to throw in sad bits that the general population will retardulate into "good story". Unfortunately for them, I am not fooled.

A long while ago a friend of mine (a woman) told me that "Grave of the Fireflies" was a great anime movie. Intrigued by the vague title and good review I was tricked into watching the movie.

It takes place in Japan during the bombings of the second world war. Just so everyone knows, Japan got bombed a lot. Anyway, the story follows a young boy and his family after a bombing that decimated his town. Except that instead of his family, it's just his little sister because his family is all dead. Basically he wanders around trying to survive with her, and his extended family doesn't like him because that's just the kind of movie it is. So then his sister dies, and he wanders around some more, and he dies too. Woo, great movie. Except, not great movie. It sucked.

Off the top of my head I'm going to say that it won every award ever. Was it enjoyable to watch? Hell no. Good plot? No plot. Good anything? No, no good anything, just death and sadness.

I've got a great idea, why don't they make some movie about a girl who's dying of leukemia, but also trying to live life to the fullest with her family. That'd be an awesome movie! Oh wait, that'd be terrible, who would ever want to watch that? Oh wait... it's already being made, I saw the previews yesterday, it's called: "My Sisters Keeper" and it looks to be a massively sappy story of someone who eventually dies.

Lucky we don't live in Korea. Korea happens to be the global capital of retarded sad stories that morons LOOOOOOOVE. Korea is famous for it's TV Dramas. Basically they put out a massive number of dramas every year and all of them are Romeo and Juliet all over again, except that it's normally death by disease.

Just browse 10 random K-Dramas and the plots will basically read someting like:

- Siblings Jun and Eri become lovers when they discovered that Eri was accidentally switched at birth. Soon after she discovers she has the same terminal illness as her birth-mother and dies a month later. Jun drowns himself due to sorrow.

- Young orphan Eri has finally struggled through poverty to obtain her dream job as a horse trainer. She begins an affair with a stable hand who she later learns has a blood disease. He dies and she gets killed by a horse somehow.

If it weren't for my incredible disdain for cheap emotional points I'd make a sad movie too. It'd be easy and I wouldn't have to spend a cent on special effects. It'd be called "The Heroic Baby Who Died Alone".

It'd basically be about some baby who tries to save some kittens from a bear. But fails, and gets mauled by the bear, then the bear will somehow realize that it is in fact the baby's mom, somehow, and will jump off a cliff in remorse. It'll land on and mash a second baby who just overcame brain cancer. Women all over the world will love it.

I think the whole reason sad movies even get away with this BS is that people are too afraid to criticize something sad.

"OMFG!!! YOU HATED GRAVE OF THE FIREFLIES!!! BUT JAPAN WAS REALLY BOMBED LIKE THAT!! HOW CAN YOU NOT CARE!!!?"
- I do care, I just though the MOVIE was retarded.

"OMGAFLAK!!! YOU ARE MAKING FUN OF "MY SISTER'S" KEEPER!!? YOU'RE AN ASS! LEUKEMIA IS SERIOUS! SHE DIES!!!"
- Leukemia IS serious, death IS serious, but movies that cheaply reference them don't instantly win the contest... you retarded freak.

Take the movie "The Ringer" for example, most of it was decent, but all the scenes involving the "love story" were incredibly crappy. Horribly acted, cheesy and retarded. Everyone can agree that movie was ruined by a pathetic attempt at a love story. BUT what if one of the special-athletes were to die during competition!!? I'm suuuuuure people would have thought that was pure gold.

I summary, if you can't make a good movie, don't make one at all. It's better than cheaping out with some pathetic sad story line that's completely crap that people are too "sensitive" to criticize.

I hope "My Sister's Keeper" tanks miserably, but I know there will be an entire fleet of women who love it for the simple reason that their brains can't distinguish between "good" and "pretend it's good so I don't offend anyone".

I read the title a knew Grave of the Fireflies was going to be involved.

And for that, you get a cookie.

My brother told me that when that movie was released in Japan, it was released along side a happy go lucky kind of movie to balance out the sadness cause they were afraid of people committing suicide after watching it.

That's precisely how you know you just made a bad movie. When you have to balance it out with another movie to avoid suicide.

I agree; there are a fair amount of films out there that attempt to capitalise on human emotions towards certain subjects and topics. It's shameless, but unfortunately it does work.

Though, you will find that, more often than not, it is the simple concepts - that are made complex through context - that are the most popular films. Simple ideas is what gets through. Too much, and it gets too uncomfortable to watch.

As a film maker though; I can't say; if you can't make a movie don't make it at all. Films, like other forms of art is an attempt to make an idea come to life. To fully realise a concept. If you have an idea; make it by all means. And it is only through practice, that you can get better at it.

My grudge is with the critics. Generally pompous sons of bitches that look down at you through their overly huge nose, these people are the ones that define cinema to suit their own personal needs and emotions at that specific moment.

If you guys want a great film; watch Midnight Cowboy. Some people proclaim this film is better as is this one. But there's something about this particular film that makes me think "Fuck, that's a pretty shit place to be in"

My main reason for watching my sisters keeper was because of a person my family knows that has leukemia. the movie reminded us of her and all that she has gone thru.. we also know a family that did just as that movie described.. had another child to help the one with leukemia.. i saw the main point of the movie as the sister trying to get her own life to be her own and not have to go thru all the pain anymore of having to help out her dying sister
we watched ashley go thru a lot of the different stages that the girl in the movie went thru.. going thru her goth stage, being self destructive.. just about everything was the same as ashley except ashley doesn't have anybody to help save her.. luckily at this point in time she is in remission and actually gets to go to high school instead of spending her time at the hospital or sick at home
anyways.. i just needed to post something on your little rants and now i get to wait til you come back and see what you will rant about this lol

Ahem, my rants are not little. They are at least medium sized.

I'm shocked that someone has finally pulled the "you're a bastard because it's happened to my family and I LOVE THAT MOVIE" card.

By surprised I mean "not surprised", because I've been expecting someone to do so.

Everyone has been affected in some way by leukemia or cancer or some other horrible disease. You have your sister, I had my aunt, who passed away a year ago, and a close friend's little sister who made it to age 3.

Yeah, it's sad, I get it, it's real, whatever. It still makes for a crap movie that does nothing but leech off of pre-existing emotions, or force people to pretend so as to not offend people from column A.

Way to take the easy way out, don't bother thinking up anything interesting or uplifting, just drop the "slow painful death" bomb and finish up the movie that way.

lol still little rants.. of course you were expecting somebody to mention it because like you said it happens to everybody.. i just watch movies.. i don't analyze like all you guys always seem to do.. i especially hate when the movie is being analyzed while i'm watching it.. and i'm just writing just to write.. i don't really care what you say in your little rants or say about what i said about it lol.. i'm just bored.. but i guess i should leave and go to work now

It doesn't take much analysis to notice when a movie is crap.

I feel the need to mention this because I don't analyze movies, and I almost always feel they are OVER analyzed.

Everyone here is "just writing to write". If boredom didn't exist, neither would these forums.
Funny how people always assume that they're the only person using the internet "casually".