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finally something to be proud of Burk

Summary: Some irish student put a fake quote in wikipedia as a test to see how easy it was to feed false info to the world and journalists around the world posted it as fact. He waited a month before coming forward and letting people know it was fake.

Kind of worrying that our news isn't all that reliable...or once again we prove how many retards we have in this world (I love rojerton's labeling of retard...paints such a perfect picture of dumb humans who think they're smart lol)

THE STORY:

DUBLIN (AP) -- When Dublin university student Shane Fitzgerald posted a poetic but phony quote on Wikipedia, he was testing how our globalized, increasingly Internet-dependent media was upholding accuracy and accountability in an age of instant news.

His report card: Wikipedia passed. Journalism flunked.

The sociology major's obituary-friendly quote -- which he added to the Wikipedia page of Maurice Jarre hours after the French composer's death March 28 -- flew straight on to dozens of U.S. blogs and newspaper Web sites in Britain, Australia and India. They used the fabricated material, Fitzgerald said, even though administrators at the free online encyclopedia twice caught the quote's lack of attribution and removed it.

A full month went by and nobody noticed the editorial fraud. So Fitzgerald told several media outlets they'd swallowed his baloney whole.

"I was really shocked at the results from the experiment," Fitzgerald, 22, said Monday in an interview a week after one newspaper at fault, The Guardian of Britain, became the first to admit its obituarist lifted material straight from Wikipedia.

"I am 100 percent convinced that if I hadn't come forward, that quote would have gone down in history as something Maurice Jarre said, instead of something I made up," he said. "It would have become another example where, once anything is printed enough times in the media without challenge, it becomes fact."

So far, The Guardian is the only publication to make a public mea culpa, while others have eliminated or amended their online obituaries without any reference to the original version -- or in a few cases, still are citing Fitzgerald's florid prose weeks after he pointed out its true origin.

"One could say my life itself has been one long soundtrack," Fitzgerald's fake Jarre quote read. "Music was my life, music brought me to life, and music is how I will be remembered long after I leave this life. When I die there will be a final waltz playing in my head that only I can hear."

Fitzgerald said one of his University College Dublin classes was exploring how quickly information was transmitted around the globe. His private concern was that, under pressure to produce news instantly, media outlets were increasingly relying on Internet sources -- none more ubiquitous than the publicly edited Wikipedia.

When he saw British 24-hour news channels reporting the death of the triple Oscar-winning composer, Fitzgerald sensed what he called "a golden opportunity" for an experiment on media use of Wikipedia.

He said it took him less than 15 minutes to fabricate and place a quote calculated to appeal to obituary writers without distorting Jarre's actual life experiences. He noted that the Wikipedia listing on Jarre did not have any other strong quotes.

If anything, Fitzgerald said, he expected newspapers to avoid his quote because it had no link to a source -- and even might trigger alarms as "too good to be true." But many blogs and several newspapers used the quotes at the start or finish of their obituaries.

He said the Guardian was the only publication to respond to him in detail and with remorse at its own editorial failing. Others, he said, treated him as a vandal who was solely to blame for their cut-and-paste content.

"The moral of this story is not that journalists should avoid Wikipedia, but that they shouldn't use information they find there if it can't be traced back to a reliable primary source," said the readers' editor at the Guardian, Siobhain Butterworth, in the May 4 column that revealed Fitzgerald as the quote author.

"It's worrying that the misinformation only came to light because the perpetrator of the deception emailed publishers to let them know what he'd done, and it's regrettable that he took nearly a month to do so," she wrote.

Fitzgerald said he had waited in part to test whether news organizations or the public would smoke out the quote's lack of provenance. He said he was troubled that none did.

And he warned that a truly malicious hoaxer could have evaded Wikipedia's own informal policing by getting a newspaper to pick up a false piece of information -- as happened when his quote made its first of three appearances -- and then use those newspaper reports as a credible footnote for the bogus quote.

"I didn't want to be devious," he said. "I just wanted to show how the 24-hour, minute-by-minute media were now taking material straight from Wikipedia because of the deadline pressure they're under."
We need more people giving the media heat. Maybe they will actually get their act together someday....proably not.
Meh, who cares what the media says anyway. They're all either retarded themselves or dedicated to exploiting the retardation of others.

"Stay tuned for the news at 11 to find out what in fruit snacks is killing your kids instantly"
- obviously not true, or there'd be some serious money to be made.

"The swine flu is sweeping the nation"
- clearly not, or there'd be noticeably less people walking the streets

"The economy should pick back up around late 2009"
Oh, so should I be buying everything then? Are you buying everything now? Hmm.... Sounds like a guess to me.

The media is only a good way to find out what popular opinion is.
The average person is severely retarded, therefore I want nothing to do with public opinion.

I only pick up a news paper to get at the comics.
Its ok we have balanced it out already..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/e3vEOSkk5AM&amp;rel=0&amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/e3vEOSkk5AM&amp;rel=0&amp;fs=1</a>
Global Warming is a hoax. Carbon taxing is the illusion that we are doing something about an imaginary problem. 'Going Green' is all about politics and marketing.
Going green can suck my nuts. I hate when people go on and on about it.
Cows aren't green.

My personal effort to go green involves me eating beef.
Humans need to learn create complete life cycles for everything we create....otherwise we will end up in a pretty dark future.

Not sure why you guys are so against greener technology
Its not greener technology that's the problem. Its greener technology at the expense of everything else or other perfectly good industries.

If a product is "green" and work just as well as a non-"green" product and costs just a bit more, then there is certainly a market for that product. But when a "green" product is forced down your throat just for the sake of it being "green" and it bankrupts other industries and puts tons of people out of work, then there is a major problem.

Right now too many governments in the world are trying to pander to the environmentalist crowd for votes and support, by cramming laws and products down the gullets of the public without recourse on how those laws and product will effect industry and markets and therefore the public at large.

The unfortunately part is that too many people don't realize the jack has been placed between there teeth and their mouths have been stretched open as wide as they will go, and the governments and environmentalist are just waiting to really start shoveling all their crap down the people's throats.
So what exactly...has the government forced down your throat?

Here in Canada all I've seen is them banning old lighbulbs to encourage those new mercury ones (I know, very poisonous).

They're offering a whole bunch of incentives in upgrading your fridge, A/C, windows, heater etc. and......

.......

...

maybe putting pressure on auto makers to come up with a new innovative car that is more efficient.

What I disagree with is the environmentalist saying have no more then 2 kids per family and shut down all nuclear plants...that's just stupid! Nuclear energy is one of the most cleanest AND efficient fuel source we have!!! And if all the "smart" people only have 2 kids to keep the population at a reasonable number, those other retards with 20 wives will just offset it by having 9 kids per wife!
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